Podcast
The Doing God’s Business podcast is about integrating faith and work. Our vision is to equip and empower Christians to live out their Kingdom calling in the world from Monday through Sunday.
In each episode Dr. R. Paul Stevens and Tim Chan interview a guest, listen to them tell their story, and ask them questions about the process they’ve gone through in learning how to integrate their Christian faith with their everyday work. After each interview, Paul shares his thoughts and insights about the interview.
This podcast is a production from the Institute for Marketplace Transformation.
Meet the Hosts
Dr. R. Paul Stevens
Paul is the Chairman of the Institute for Marketplace Transformation and Professor Emeritus of Marketplace Theology and Leadership at Regent College. Paul is a craftsman with wood, words, and images and has worked as a carpenter, a student counsellor, a pastor, and a professor. He has written over 25 books. His personal mission is to empower the whole people of God to integrate their faith and life from Monday to Sunday. Paul is married to Gail and has three married children and eight grandchildren.
Tim Chan
Tim is the co-founder of Coracle Marketing which provides marketing services for vision-driven entrepreneurs to grow in meaningful ways. He has worked in logistics, marketplace ministry, and as an entrepreneur. He believes deeply in the importance of listening to your life, discerning your calling, and living out your calling through your work and other areas of your life. Tim is married to Olive and has two children.
Episode 13: Advertising
Dr. Joseph Pai has over 30 years of experience working in public communication and enterprise marketing. His most recent role was working as the Chairman of Taiwan Ogilvy & Mather, which is one of the top advertising agencies in Taiwan and a well-known global brand in the advertising world. During his 10+ years as chairman, he worked with major brands like Coca-Cola, Ford, IBM, Standard Chartered Bank, and Nokia. In this episode, Joseph talks about the unexpected twists and turns in his career journey that led him to advertising. He shares why truth is so important in advertising, why it’s important for Christians to perform well in their jobs, and what it means to be a marketplace minister.
Episode 12: Theology of Work
Dr. Natalie Chan has worked in finance for close to 20 years, most of that time with Goldman Sachs in Hong Kong, Europe, and the US. Natalie is currently the director of the Ray Bakke Center for Urban Transformation at Bethel Bible Seminary in Hong Kong. In our conversation with Natalie, she shares how she went from a successful financial career to a nervous breakdown in a hospital bed, and how God met her in that place. We also discuss what theology of work is, how theology can be helpful for people working in high pressure jobs, why she recommends that Christians use the prayer of examen in their work, and ways to discover your calling.
Episode 11: Law
Peter Mogan has been working as a lawyer, entrepreneur, and mediator since 1978 in BC and Ontario. Peter is known as a leading legal advisor for mid-market mergers and acquisitions, and is the founding partner of Mogan Daniels Slager LLP. After 13 years of working as a lawyer, Peter was in vocational confusion and studied theology at Regent College. In the podcast he shares how studying theology shaped him, and his journey to starting his own law firm. Peter also talks about why lawyers have a bad reputation, what Christians can do to redeem the legal profession, and what it means to him to be an ambassador in the marketplace.
Episode 10: Entrepreneurs
Jimmy is the founder and managing director of Net-Makers Limited, which is an IT and business consulting company based in Hong Kong. After working 20 years in global corporations, he started Net-Makers with a vision of using business to serve God. In our conversation with Jimmy, we talk about the traits of an entrepreneur, how he initially believed that faith & work integration meant evangelism, and how he now sees his business as contributing to God’s mission of reconciliation in the world.
Episode 09: Family Business
Millie Chan is a lawyer with over 30 years of experience working in Malaysia and Vancouver. She is the founder of Legacy 127 Consulting, a senior consultant with the Canadian national law firm BLG, and a consultant with the Malaysian law firm Shearn Delamore & Co. In our conversation with Millie, we discuss her work with helping ultra-high net worth families in Asia with inter-generational wealth transfer and her holistic approach to wealth, which includes intangible assets such as family identity, vision, values, and traditions. Millie also shares how as a newer Christian, she felt it would be a higher calling to leave her work as a lawyer and join full-time ministry, and what changed in her to allow her to see her legal work as doing God’s work.
Episode 08: Vocation
George Bedlion the lead pastor at Whitewater Church in Northwest Washington. This is part two of our conversation with George. In today’s episode, George shares what it looks like for his church to help people find their vocations and callings, affirm them, and empower them. Stay until the end, because Paul and Tim have a discussion about the role of storytelling, and the places in the Bible that talk about calling.
Episode 07: Pastors are Servants
George Bedlion the lead pastor at Whitewater Church in Northwest Washington. Our conversation is divided into two podcast episodes. In this episode, George shares the story of starting Whitewater Church, how they reached out to their neighbourhood, and his church’s vision for supporting their people from Monday to Saturday.
Episode 06: Gender Equity
Brenda Halk is the Senior Associate for Strategic Projects at Canadian Baptist Ministries, and works in the area of gender based programs and Faith & Work initiatives. She has over 20 years of experience running 3 businesses. Brenda shares about gender equity - what is it, why is it important, and the work she does to promote gender equity in Canada and internationally.
Episode 05: Money
Dr. Clive Lim is the Managing Director of Leap International and teaches theology on money, leadership, and the marketplace. In this podcast he shares about growing up without money, his relentless pursuit of money, and how he was able to let go.
Episode 04: Success
Andre Chen is the CEO of Denham, which is an international brand that makes premium-quality jeans. In our interview with Andre we talk about success, and how his views on success have changed as he’s grown older as a business person and matured as a follower of Jesus.
Episode 03: God cares about Helicopter Maintenance
Kevin Peters is the Director of Maintenance with Chinook Helicopters.
Episode 02: Growing Leaders in Malaysia and Beyond
Alvin Ung’s purpose is to grow leaders who embrace their calling. As a facilitator and coach, Alvin finds joy in creating a safe space where leaders can renew relationships, build trust, and contribute to breakthroughs.
Episode 01: A Machinist with a Doctoral Degree
David Hataj is the president of Egerton Gear, his second-generation family business.